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A GROUNDSWELL of public anger at the American takeover of Cadbury which could cost thousands of British jobs last night prompted calls for the iconic chocolate-maker to be saved.
Cadbury’s board is urging the firm’s shareholders to accept Kraft Food’s best and final offer for the brand but furious protesters yesterday placed a sign outside the flagship Bournville factory saying: “Save our jobs. United we stand. No surrender.”
Another sign outside Cadbury’s offices in Birmingham read: “Hey Kraft. Go to Hell”.
Felicity Loudon, great-great-granddaughter of the firm’s Quaker founder John Cadbury, described Kraft’s takeover as a “horror story”.
She said: “I am just not going to give up and I just so hope that other people will join me and just fight this. It is awful.
“My grandfather and great grandfather and great, great grandfather would all be turning in their graves. The idea that Cadbury could be anything but British would be just a horror story to them.”
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Lynn Earl Mundy
I didn't notice any English companies trying to buy it!
Steph Meslin-Weber
Cadbury's chocolate might be an english institution, but give my Green&Blacks any day...
Paul M Hounslow Cadbury's own Green&Blacks...
Also, other than Green&Blacks, they produce horrible chocolate.
Martin Searle
Priorities, Elizabeth, priorities. Also, the issues are more similar than might be immediately apparent. Cadbury's were one of the great institutions of benevolent Quaker capitalism, believing in model communities, decent housing for workers, day (well, half day) release education, a veritable icon of a lost world where it was possible for capitalism to be something other than untrammelled.
Selena Whitehead
Nooooo, Paul - I still enjoy a Cadbury's Wispa or a Dairy Milk and now that Christmas is over, it is of course, Creme Egg season. Perhaps I have poor taste but that's what I grew up with (plus living with the vending machines at work).
Theresa Spencer Apps
Lynn, that's exactly what I said to my husband as we were reading the paper this morning in bed!
Jenny Convery
I'm an American, and I'm pretty bummed about both. And Cadbury's isn't the best chocolate I've ever had, but it'll certainly do and it's better than most American chocolate. What's the worst chocolate you've ever had?
Elizabeth Scanlon Thomas
After living in the UK for so long and getting hooked on dark chocolate, I now find Hershey's disappointing.
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"they took our jobs!" see the South Park episode "gobacks"
IRONICALLY, THERE ARE PROBABLY MORE JOBS OUTSIDE THE UK IN DANGER OF GETTING THE CHOP, BECAUSE CADBURY IS A GLOBAL COMPANY. IT MAKE NO DIFFERENCE WHO OWNS IT ANYMORE. JUST TYPICAL KNEE JERK REACTION. THEY ARE TAKING OUR JOBS, THEY HAVE TAKEN OUR JOBS BLAH BLAH..
Britain, because of the Walled City, is the most globalised country in the world. So brits should not blame americans for what their own government has encouraged since 1692. They should protest at the royal palace and parliament instead of at cadbury.
But the queen, who owns one sixth of the earth, has no real power, and parliament has only the best interests of the people at heart.
One does wonder how the legislation that protects the Square Mile ever came about, with such a populace loving government and a monarchy with no power (other than one of the most sophisticated intelligence agencies on earth feeding it daily up to the minute financial info to its armies of brokers and bankers)
I wonder how much Kraft stock the queen and parliament members own collectively.
Priorities, Elizabeth, priorities. Also, the issues are more similar than might be immediately apparent. Cadbury's were one of the great institutions of benevolent Quaker capitalism, believing in model communities, decent housing for workers, day (well, half day) release education, a veritable icon of a lost world where it was possible for capitalism to be something other than untrammelled.
I was upset to hear that, also. From my childhood years overseas, I grew to love Cadbury. Coming home to Hershey's was a big disappointment.
The Brits may not be upset by the MA election, but they will be upset when they start to see the effects - like bye bye to any attempts to control global warming.
I wouldn't worry about global warming Casey Ann, since it is not happening in the first place.
Cass Sunstein has already proposed that denying global warming be made a criminal offenses. So maybe it is not so bad we have a faux Republican in a MA office- he did vote for universal healthcare and so many other leftist initiatives. Don't cry yet, he is just in there to quiet resistance to the ongoing firesale on liberty which the Obama administration is parceling out to globalist bankers.
Did you know, Casey Ann, that Edmund de Rothschild, back in the first days of promoting this global warming fraud, proposed to set up a global operation to make dry ice and ship it to the poles to keep the polar caps from melting? Financed of course, by Rothschild & Friends. Rotshcild also has publically stated that Jupiter is closer to the sun than earth is.
Here is a report on the Fourth World Wilderness Conference which got all this monky business kicked off, which details how the central bankers intend to set up the World Conservation Bank with all the world's wilderness lands put in trust to it, to issue paper money on these resources and to control (for the good of humanity, of course) all resource use within these lands.
If you think this global warming business is anything but a banker's scheme you need to do some more reading Casey Ann. Your comments show that you are familiar with only the naive illusions of not very bright conservationists (most of whom have never tilled land or managed a forest) and the scary rhetoric of the politicians like Gore (oilman and banker) who are providing cover for the bankers.
If it were not so crippling to all the citizens of the earth the whole affair would be laughable, but people are starving daily because of the misguided efforts and sentiments of people like you who want to do good but dont know how.
Marty, what would it take to convince you that global warming is actually happening?
Or can nothing convince you, since it's a matter of faith?
What it would take Mel, is some evidence. I have been working on the edge of the Gulf Coast sine 1974 and there is no sea level rise. The high tide marks are in the same damn place; there is no sea level rise. We've just had the coldest winter in 30 years, all over the northern hemisphere- and this is global warming?
Did the photos of the limos driving through the blizzard at the last giant global warming conference not give you a clue?
It would also take the complete erasure of history going back all the way to 1968 when global leaders began holding conferences in which they stated that they would create fears of a global climate catastrophe in order to unite the people of the world in a global socialist effort (to transfer control of all resources to the central banking system, something they've been trying to do since they tried to form the League of Nations).
What would it take to get you to actually do some research into it instead of just parroting what your tribal leaders tell you to believe?
Have you ever heard of the Fourth World Wilderness Conference? That is the conference I referenced above. The Fourth World comes after the First, Second, and Third Worlds; it is envisioned as more than two thirds of the earth being put off limits to all human activity with humans living in small compact cities; the wilderness areas will be put in a trust that central banks will oversee and they will direct the use of resources within the wilderness areas. This is what was discussed at the conference, and if you look around you can find the video of Edmund de Rothschild talking about setting up a global operation to employ people to make dry ice and ship it to the poles to keep them from melting. This really did happen.
What he was talking about was putting a heavy cabon tax on everyone so the ice makers and shippers could be employed in this manner. People with ideas like this are the leaders of the global warming scare- you socialists are remarkably easy to scare, as the earlier posts on this site about the swine flu show- now I understand the EU is investigating the swine flu scare as an international fraud since it killed on 11% of the number of people the regular flu killed. But it had vast groups of terrified people wetting their panties, just as they do over global warming, a much larger fraud.
And at the same time, we have the next supreme court justice writing papers saying that those who do not believe in the fraud are guilt of a hate crime and should be put in jail. This is just what socialists and communists always do, jail the opposition.
You really do disappoint me in this, you seem like you have good sense until it comes down to supportin your tribe; you are no different than the religious bigots you so like make fun of; you are a political bigot and if you support people like Cass Sunstein in the movement to restrict speech and make things like not believing global warming crimes you are the worst kind of hateful human since you seek to institutionalize the restriction of liberty. Good grief.
Marty, saying global warming is bull just because we're having a cold winter is like saying there's no such thing as obesity because you saw a slim guy at McDonalds today. We have to work outwards from the anecdotal to get to the truth.
That is an excellent point Tom. Saying the earth is warming up because we had 30 years when there was a slight, insignificant rise in temperature (when records show there is a 30 year cycle) is like saying there is no such thing as obesity because you saw a slim guy at McDonalds.
Saying that sea levels are rising because of one anamolous reading on a guage in Hong Kong, one of six guages, five of which were in disagreement, is the stuff socialist dreams are made of.
Marty, just assuming your "scientific" "facts" are correct just for one tiny moment, even so, why *wouldn't* you want humankind to err on the side of caution? What's so important about farting clouds of pollutants into the air that makes a small insignificant warning from the world's science community something you'd want to avoid? Wouldn't you want to try and make a *better* world? What's the moral holdup here?
In the first place Tom, just because someone does not believe in global warming that does not mean they want a polluted earth.
Erring on the side of caution, and I am glad you recgonize that it is an error, will cost millions of lives around the world. That's the moral holdup for me. Resource control always results in the deaths of those least able to defend themselves, as you may have noticed from the 250 million deaths in the last century caused by regimes that thought they could centrally manage their people.
And the science "comminity" does not support this fraud, its the IPCC, most of the members of which are secretaries and bureaucrats doing what they are told, they aren't scientists at all. 30,000 scientists around the world have said this is bullshit, even one of the ones who originally supported it.
Didn't Bush err on the side of caution? I mean, Saddam *could* have had nukes. So why not just bomb the shit out of Iraw just in casez? See the problem with this kind of thinking?
You may be, and I suspect you are, totally unaware that the tilt of the earth changes continually. Right now the tilt is decreasing, which means that the northern hemisphere, where most of the land mass is, more absorbs less sunlight, meaning there is less stored heat to carry the largest land mass through winter. We are due for an ice age, and as the tilt lessens the ice age will proceed as nature has ordained. This is why in the 70's the scare stories were that we were entering a new ice age.
The Milankovitch cycles are the drivers of climate change on earth, the geologic record bears this out.
Only the unthinking tribalists have failed to notice that Gore's famous hockety stick graph shows that approx. 800 years AFTER and INCREASE in TEMPERATURE carbon dioxide levels rise, as do levels of all other gases because all gases become less active at lower temperatures.
There is no real science to support global warming, which is why that Copenhagen business has failed so miserably.
Sorry, that was me above. I dont want to create the impression that anyone other than me and the 30,000 scientists who've signed the petition believe global warming is a fraud.
"Ecoscience", written in 1977 by Obama's climate czar John Holdren and Paul and Anne Ehrlich, details how social change can be implemented by uniting the people against themselves (we are our own enemies) using climate change. He details what institutions should be attacked to bring about this global totalitarian socialist state that uses a "non-monetary unit" (carbon credit) to discourage people from engaing in commerce. (capitalism and religion are high on his list of institutions to be done away with)
It is interesting to note that the dire predictions of these three idiots never materalized, the vast starvation they predicted for Indian has instead actually been the rise of a budding world power. If you haven't read the book you should read it, I guarantee it will open your eyes to the truth about what this is all about- in the words of the authors the establishment of a planetary regime to enforce compulsory sterilization, the taking of children from their parents to educate them to the regime's wishes, and every other horrible thing you have ever heard about totalitarian states. It is all in there.
um, "andrew," you better pack that mouse away and sit down, son. You're writing nonsense. You need to learn a lot more about the English language, particularly the subjunctive. I didn't "admit" anything. I was proposing a *hypothetical* argument, as a moment's reflection will show.
You might also learn more about spelling such words as "community," (which you pretend to quote from me!) just as scientist Marty could better pepper his arguments by correctly spelling "gauge."
As far as admonishing me on whatever spools your drool, I do not copy.
Marty, you lost me at 30,000 scientists. Bullshit.
What is the definition of a scientist on this petition? Are we giving equal weight of opinion to a environmental scientist and, say, a biochemist? Totally different fields.
The computer models the dire predictions are based on start with the idea that IF human activity is responsible for the temperature increase seen in the 90's (which has now become a cooling trend) and IF the temperature continued to increase at the maximum rate of those years (which it has not), then terrible things will happen.
To reduce human created carbon emissions by the targeted 80% by the end of the century would require the halting of 80% of all human activity. Since the recession began human emissions have fallen 2.8% in the US. If that 80% target were reached the world would be plunged into continual depression with great loss of life through starvation and inability to shelter from temperature extremes. How many of you are enjoying the recession? Would you like to see it continue for the rest of your lives, but be 17 times worse?
It is also relevant to point out that it is the middle class, of which you are all members, that is seen as the global problem. It is your activity that threatens the planet not the rich because "there are too few of them" or the poor for they don't have your high rate of consumption. It is your way of life that is threatened.
So if you really want to do your part. move out of your big houses into the smallest, most energy efficient house you can find. turn your thermostats down to 65, walk to work, eat only carbohydrates, and live a bleak soviet style existence. Or don't you really believe in global warming? Or do you feel like you should be part of the privileged class that will certainly arise that will have greater allotments of all things than the masses? How do you see yourself?
I don't see this global socialist takeover ever happening, because sooner or later it will become apparent to even the most raging leftist that living like a Ugandan isn't much fun. This is precisely why the communist revolution failed in Europe and once you socialists are successful in creating your ideal society of equality and bleakness you too will revolt. That is the basic market force that will move world political philosophy in the next two decades, the desire to be comfortable and have enough and good enough food and warm houses and clothes.
I am sure it is fun to revile all those you believe to be conservatives and hayseeds while you sip your drinks in fancy restaurants and ride around in your big cars and take three or four overseas vacations a year, but to put it quite simply you are hypocrites who think someone else should pay the price for your political desires and half baked theories.
criticalthinker, what is the definition of a scientist on the IPCC? I suggest you investigate that. Do secretaries and bureaucrats count?
It's amazing what a fucked up idiot you are marty/andrew/liah or whatever the hell or whoever the hell you are at the moment.
You spout the rhetoric of fringe political groups with racially charged ideology and then you cut & paste from websites that have as much credibility as say the Nazi or Soviet or Iranian propaganda machines.
You quite obviously are undereducated and apparently are poorly self taught as it shows in virtually all of your posts.
You apparently are a miserable creature as you seem to revel in making others suffer with your ignorant taunts and poorly informed judgments.
Apparently you are a living breathing example of the the stereotypical southern white male with a kkk robe hanging up in your closet. I cannot understand why anyone even bothers to respond to your nonsense.
You post so much that either you're unemployed, which given your situation in Mississippi wouldn't surprise me, or you're wasting your employer's time by logging online to visit your favorite white supremacist group website before heading to this blog to dazzle us with your bullshit. Of course on your employer's time. God, how fucking pathetic is that?
*sigh* You're fucking boring dude, very. Small wonder you have no life.
Thank you for your input Rodger, but I can't help but feel you are not being compeletly honest in your evaluation of me.
So Rabbi Gil Student maintains a Nazi website? I bet he would be surprised to hear that.
Your use of flattering invective is unique! Are you, like Brody, a writer?
You guys...I tried to calm things down in here by deleting the offending post and turning on moderation for a bit but now it's worse than ever in here!
But I don't mind -- you call each other all the names you want to and have fun.
It seems to me the uneducated miserable soviet (communist) nazi (democrtic socialist) klukker (the standing joke in mississippi since 1965 is that the only people who attend klan meetings are fbi agents and radical students {cofo workers} from up north) Iranian (jihadist) (geez, shouldnt some of these be mutually exclusive) won this exchange since I didnt have to resort to name calling to cover up my unfamiliarity with the subject- which I have been reading deeply about for over five years. That's how I am so familiar with the history of it, no cutting and pasting needed.
On this blog so many have political opinions, mainly of the identity politics type, frequently espousing the party line with no indication that any of those doing so have ever actually read any of the philosophers who created the movement, or any of the legal theorists who brought the movement into everday life. The same is true of the global warming supporters who seemingly have no idea that this movement did not spring out of a vacuum but was the result of a long and concentrated effort by the very demons identity politics rail against- WASP bankers and industrialists who have positioned themsevles to make big bucks if they can carry off this carbon credit scheme, working in concert with their leftist buddies to sway the left through corporate and foundation funding funneled into leftist causes the average run of the mill good intentioned hobby socialists care about because the ads on tv and in the glossy magazines look and sound so plausible.
Rodger, I am gainfully employed working 12 hours a day every day; I do not work by the hour though so as long as I do what has to be done I get paid. I have what might be called an ideal situation.
Anyone in Mississippi who wants a job can find a job. True, a lot of Mississippians just dont want one, but they have those of us who do work to take care of them so why should they? Unemployment is big business in Mississippi, it helps Mississippi maintain its status as a net receiver of federal funds, a far better situation than being a net payer of taxes. Most everybody here is fat and happy whether they choose to work or not.
The only white supremacist sites I have ever visited, apart from one brief visit to Stormfront, are one maintained by a guy who works for the FBI (now defunct, Hal Turner) and one maintained by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Those last two sites are far more amusing and radical than Stormfront, which is a bit too PC for my taste. What makes them amusing is that they are a caricature of what the creators imagine a white supremacist to be, sort of like socialists in nazi drag. And we all know how funny drag is, it is a veritable laugh riot for the sexually repressed.
Marty said:
"It would also take the complete erasure of history going back all the way to 1968 when global leaders began holding conferences in which they stated that they would create fears of a global climate catastrophe "
I don't remember any news reports to this effect. Can you point me to some of the statements these world leaders made?
But more than that...temperatures really have risen since 1968, so there's been no need to create the fear. Or are you saying that the data showing this is fraudulent? If so, how do you account for the recent retreat of Arctic ice and the opening of the Northwest Passage in the summer?
I can and will point you to several news reports from the seventies predicting a coming ice age due to coooling temperatures being observed.
And I cant point you to any news articles about the plan to use the environment as a weapon against the people, but I can and will show you the documents themselves (again, I have done so numerous times), just start with the Brumland Report, read the Club of Rome meeting minutes going back to 68, and read the transcripts of the Convention of Biodiversity, Agenda 21, the Fourth World Wilderness Convention, LOST, and the earth summit. There is a huge collection of videos on youtube from the various meetings where bankers are explaining how they are going to take control of the earth's resources, led by Edmiund de Rothschild, Maurice Strong, et al. It's all there in black and white for anyone who cares to learn. You can hear David Laing describe the middle class as cannon fodder who cant be trusted with a democratic process; you can hear the assembly chuckle at the Fourth World Wilderness conference laugh when the maharaj who was president of the World Wildlife Fund in India at the time complains that this is a clever sadly lacking in details regarding how the World Conservation Bank will be set up and who will profit; you can hear Edmund de Rothschild explain that this carbon credit plan will produce bankable profits (after lamenting that auditors have discovered billions missing from the World Wildlife Fund). Yep, its all there.
Right wing theocratic gas guzzlers only believe things they can personally witness from their own back porch, it's a common trait, the argument from personal incredulity.
How anyone can spectacularly miss the whole point of the research like this is a sad reflection on the state of science education in some parts of the world.
I remember (from about 1970) the predictions of a coming ice age - that's not what I'm asking about.
I'm asking where can I find evidence from 1968 that:
"global leaders began holding conferences in which they stated that they would create fears of a global climate catastrophe in order to unite the people of the world in a global socialist effort".
Who were these leaders? Richard Nixon? Harold Wilson? Georges Pompidou? Willy Brandt? Indira Ghandi?
Or were they shodowy figures of whom I've never heard.
Videos of a Rothschild salivating over profit potential from carbon trading are irrelevant. I profit from investment banking, but I didn't invent it.
Mel, you got me with the Northwest Passage Argument. That ties the whole controversy together and at last I am a convert to the fact of man made global warming.
Roald Amundsens 1903-1905 navigation of the Northwest Passage is evidence of the truth of the correlation shown by Gore's hockey stick graph, which shows that when carbon emissions rise (from man's activities) that the effect is so powerful that temperatures rise not only in the present and scientifically computer modeled future, but 800 years in the past as well.
It took Amundsen three years to complete the Passage, but now it can be done in two weeks if one has a 24,000 hp icebreaker that represents the pinnacle of metalurgical, shipbuilding, and diesel-electric enging technology; if one has such a ship one can indeed enjoy a balmy Mediterranean like Northwest Passage and observe polar bears (dwindling, but there are a handful left) in bermuda shorts and sunglasses dining on walruses (what would PETA say?).
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCP/is_5_25/ai_114005566/
The US and Canadian military project that in twenty years, maybe, the passage will be open for all of the summer months. Whether or not this will happen is somewhat in doubt since the University of Illinois Arctic Climate Research Center discovered from NASA photos that from Sept. 2008 through the spring of 2009 the polar caps expanded at the greatest rate (increase or decrease) since record keeping began 30 years ago. They observed a 30% increase in ice formation in one winter; this could screw up the plans of those happy investors anticipating the opening of northern seaports. Scientists were just as surprised by this as they were by earlier sudden shrinkages of the ice cover; it appears their surprise is rooted in their inability to predict what is actually going to happen.
At one time the Arctic tundra was a prairie, before man made global warming morhped into climate change and brought on the the last ice age, from which we are still recovering 12,000 years later. The recession of that ice pack caused the death of the Indus Valley Civilation when the Sarawsati and Indus rivers dried up subsequent to the glaciers feeding them melting away; one can only imagine the terror faced by those ancient peoples when they woke up one morning to find that the rivers were empty, how they must have suffered as they sat in their huts and dehydrated to death!
There was tragedy in Northern Eurasia at the same time as the nomadic tribes who lived on the reindeer herds were forced to continually move farther north from their familiar lands to follow the cold loving reindeer they lived off of. It was an unsettled time we have failed to learn from, and it was all due to man made global warming having a retroactive effect.
Mel, what you ask for is in a book published by the Club of Rome called "The First Global Revolution". Members have or do include David Rockefeller, Edmund de Rothschild, David de Rothschild, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Queen Beatrix, and on and on and on.
Here is a little background on it: http://www.thebigbadbank.com/thebigbadbank.html
”There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change and cool dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon. The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it.” - Newsweek, April 28, (1975)
“This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.” - Lowell Ponte "The Cooling" (1976)
“The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.” - Reid Bryson, Global Ecology (1971)
“The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer.” - Prof. Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)
“In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” - Prof. Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)
“This cooling trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century.” - Peter Gwynne, climatologist, Newsweek (1976)
“If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.” - Kenneth Watt, Earth Day (1970)
”There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change and cool dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon. The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it.” - Newsweek, April 28, (1975)
“This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.” - Lowell Ponte "The Cooling" (1976)
“The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.” - Reid Bryson, Global Ecology (1971)
“The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer.” - Prof. Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)
“In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” - Prof. Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)
“This cooling trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century.” - Peter Gwynne, climatologist, Newsweek (1976)
“If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.” - Kenneth Watt, Earth Day (1970)
Marty, if the current climate can only keep you in your room writing these intemperate posts, then scientific stasis may possibly be achieved in my lifetime, and my will shall be done. So just keep sitting there and blatting them out, son. Christ!
(I'm not going in and rebutting each of your highly suspect "points" b/c you're just booming them out like Roman candles, and it would take me far longer than you spent "amassing" them to dispute them. Besides, what reasoned being could possibly convince you of anything? So goodbye, and may your and Pat Robertson's God bless.)
Tom, apparently you have your head buried so far in the sand you've completely missed all the recent reports about fraud at the IPCC, falsifying some reports, exaggerating others and so on and so forth.
You will notice the dire predictions Paul and Anne Erlich made in the days when they predicted global catastrophe due to global cooling, completely misprojecting what would happen in India, and how now they are avid supporters of global warming and projecting the same dire outcomes.
Still, they hold their tenured posts, because what is not necessary is accuracy in their science but how they support social change. And that is the whole meat of it.
A CALIFORNIA Congressman was seated next to a little girl on the airplane leaving from Mobile , AL when the he turned to her and said, 'Let's talk. I've heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.'
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to the total stranger, 'What would you like to talk about?'
'Oh, I don't know,' said the congressman. 'How about global warming or universal health care', and he smiles smugly.
OK, ' she said. 'Those could be interesting topics. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?'
The California legislator, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, 'Hmmm, I really have absolutely no idea.' To which the little girl replies, "Well then.....Do you really feel qualified to discuss issues such as global warming or universal health care when you don't know shit?"
She quietly went about reading her book and was not bothered again!
That little girl must not have been reading the logic lessons on this blog from a month or so or she wouldn't have tried such a stupid line of attack on the esteemed lawmaker.
No wonder she won't make a comment using her real name.
That little girl was probably scared to use her name because she's seen what hatred is directed at global warming realists here and how people like Rodger Stevens threaten to turn you over to the FBI if you don't go along with the liberal fascist agenda.
Poor thing. Can't even say what she thinks without hiding her name. But that's the beauty of repressive tolerance, it advances leftist agenda no matter how foolish and fraudulent it is, no matter how well and recently exposed it is, no matter how complete the historical record.
Global warming on the Mississippi River- it has been happening every year since anyone can remember, the upper river is shut down from about Mid-December to March due to high temperatures: http://breakpointtrades.com/controls/preview.php?nl_id=423
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